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[Logical Training] How to refute this lewdly like Hiroyuki


Roughly speaking

  1. A modern person fascinated by Hiroyuki's rebuttal. Hiroyuki is interesting as a logic game though.
  2. A way to comment on the other person's opinions like Hiroyuki.
  3. Let's try it out. Is toilet pee dirty?


Modern people fascinated by Hiroyuki's debate


Hiroyuki, who lives with the energy of the world, is popular as a person who vents the frustration of the world.


We simply clean up issues that are often troubled by major issues by "please take welfare" and "stop it," and lighten up people's paths.


The way he decides to refute his argument against famous big names and debates in his own unique style, and emotionally shakes the other person and causes him to lose, moving people.


He must be portrayed as a revolutionary who will refresh the depressed spirit of modern people. In fact, there is a sense of the originality and rationality of ideas. On the other hand, the strange silly way of not taking responsibility for their comments is too dangerous to imitate.


However, the ability to train your logic and refute the other person's opinions is a very important skill, so let's learn how to refute them from Logic Training/Noya Shigeki (Industry Books) under the title "How to Become Hiroyuki."



How to comment on other people's opinions like Hiroyuki


In logic training, three tips are introduced to counterargument.


  1. Rebutt the correctness of the evidence and the strength of the relevance of the derivation.
  2. Rebuttal to the presupposed value standards
  3. Submitting conflicting assessments

1. Rebutt the correctness of the evidence and the strength of the relevance of the derivation.


This is to argue that when a sentence is A→B, it cannot be said that just because it is A does not mean that B. Let's take a look at a specific example.


Example: Just because Hiroyuki comes up with a good idea doesn't mean that Hiroyuki can do anything.


2. Rebuttal to the presupposed value standards


It is about rebutting the value that the other person is pushing against.


Example: Just because you're a minimalist doesn't mean you shouldn't have a refrigerator.


3. Submitting conflicting evaluations


Present value that is conflicting with the other person.


Example: Difficulties can be painful, but they are not necessarily to be avoided. There may be learning that can be gained from difficulties.


Of these, Hiroyuki probably uses one frequently. A famous counterargument is, "That's your opinion, right?" When giving an opinion, a logic that is a premise for the opinion to be enacted is necessary. If you have any doubts about this, the burden of proof poses to the person who gave the opinion, so the person who rebuts will likely win.


Furthermore, in logic training, four tips are introduced as tips to find points of comment, divided into "meaning between meaning" and "argumental." Let's include specific examples of Hiroyuki styles for each.


  • Comment between meanings','Are there any ambiguous parts?
    • Specific example: "I said that a comment is a map of a person, but what is a map? What is it? "','Is there anything that lacks concreteness? -Specific example: "You say that 2ch has made people negative and delinquent, but are there any specific examples of 2ch making them negative?"
  • Comment on the period between arguments','Are there any arbitrary things? -Specific example: "In the UK, we say that coronavirus countermeasures are perfect, but can you say that? What is the basis for saying that it is perfect?",'Is there any leap?
    • Example: "2ch wants to corrupt young people, so what kind of mechanism can you say is that it corrupts young people?"

Now that we know how it works, let's start by adding some comments to someone else's opinions. This is the problem of urinating in the toilet, which is often argued by men and women.



Add a comment to the doctor's rebuttal of the problem with "Toilet pee flying"


Let's start by making a comment about a certain opinion. First, let me explain the problem of pee flying. This text is taken from the Logic Training book "101 Logic Training Questions/Noya Shigeki (Industry Books)". This is also educational, so if you want to improve your logic skills, please take a look.


More and more men are sitting in toilet bowls and peeing. The reason is simple: when you stand and piss, your pee will fly around and you will be filthy. So, more and more men are sitting and peeing.


In response to this, the doctor responded to the following: This comment is actually full of things to point out, but please think about what you can actually go into.


Professor Fujita Tsuneichiro of Tokyo Medical and Dental University, author of "Cleanliness is Bjoki," also points out that the increase in the number of people sitting is "overly cleanliness is unbalanced." "The piss that have just come out are almost free of bacteria. In that sense, it is as beautiful as water. Why do you hate piss? I hope it's not a sign of the fact that it's too resistant to blisters and smells, and on the other hand, it's almost losing its natural human power as a living creature."
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(Asahi Shimbun, morning edition of March 26, 2000)

Let's start peeking in and take a look. First of all, he is talking about his denial of cleanliness, saying that "they are too clean" is contradictory, but "they just come out are just as clean as water." If we deny cleanliness, it's strange that "as clean as water" is a reinforcement of cleanliness. In fact, the sentences should be followed to say that pee may be dirty, but you need a heart that doesn't bother you. In fact, they seem to be rebutting the other person's opinions, and are talking about things that reinforce the other person's opinions.


Next, this is the part that I have automatically limited to "just-eat piss." In the first place, the problem with pee flying is probably because pissing is dirty after a while. It's strange to say that it's arbitrary and limited to "just-going piss."


Furthermore, the definition of "dirty" is automatically limited to "germs and odors." It can be said that the author is automatically imposing value on "dirty equals bacteria and smells." "Dirty" should also include visual stains, and if there are colored coffee stains, it could also be said to be "dirty." I have no choice but to limit myself to germs and odors.


This is a very simple sentence that is full of things to point out. If you look at the shitty comments on Twitter, you'll be keenly aware of how many things people can express. Let's put our antennas against the rebuttal as if Hiroyuki were Hiroyuki's, and start by saying, "That's your opinion, right?" Maybe I'll hate it.